Haslemere Walking Festival - Peasant Walk 26th Sept

We had a lovely walk on Saturday as part of the first Haslemere Walking Festival.  It was a warm and sunny Indian Summer day.  Numbers were limited to 20, but with only 4 people booked(!) that was not a problem.  In the end there were 8 of us which was a fantastic number as everyone was talking to each other, and much better than a large crowd!  Perhaps I will do another walk with such intimate numbers again in the future after all...

Sarah Tyssen, the talented weaver of The Weaving House, helped the subject come alive as she set out two tables on Kings Road of old photographs, copies of The Vineyard, arts and crafts books containing photographs of the Haslemere Peasant Industries and even some homegrown grapes, all exhibited on top of her wonderful woven rugs.  Sarah's website is here.

Outside the Weaving House,
Haslemere Walking Festival 2015

It was also nice to admire the new Blue Plaque at Green Bushes, following it's unveiling two week's previous.   There is a write up of the plaque on the Haslemere Society website here.  I will have to share more details of the blue plaque in another post.

Blue Plaque unveiling,
Haslemere Herald, 18 September 2015

Green Bushes Weaving House,
Blue Plaque, awarded September 2015

Thank you to those who came along for the walk.  It was good talking to you all.

Walk leaflet, Haslemere Walking Festival 2015

Haslemere Walking Festival - Peasant Arts walk - Saturday 26th September

I am taking part in the first Haslemere Walking Festival which is taking place next weekend.  I am doing my Peasant Arts walk, which is around the outside (note: not the inside!) of the Haslemere Peasant Arts buildings on Kings Road, Foundry Lane and Longdene Road.

Haslemere Walking Festival 2015
brochure

I am not planning on doing any further Peasant Arts walks. I am all "walked out", so I am thinking that this is my last Peasant Arts walk.  It would be lovely to have some interested people to talk to about our interesting Peasant Arts heritage.

The vitals!

The booking form and e-mail details are available here.

The Weaving House, Kings Road
from The Craftsman, January 1902

Maude Egerton King's second grave stone and her neighbours

Thanks to a very helpful volunteer of St Bartholomew's Church, I have found a lot more out about Maude Egerton King's position in St Bartholomew's Cemetery following on from my previous post.   This included the very unexpected outcome that Maude's grave marker that I had found previously was not actually in the correct place, and that there was another gravestone for Maude hidden in the overgrowth nearby.

Maude Egerton King's grave, St Bartholomew's Cemetery,
Haslemere

Maude's wooden grave marker had been propped up against her brother, William Egerton Hine's gravestone at location S14.  However Maude's grave was actually one row in front of her brother, at T14.   It would appear that a new grave stone was erected when Maude and Joseph King's only child, Katharine King, died in 1976 and she was buried with her mother.

Maude Egerton King and Katharine King's grave,
St Bartholomew's Cemetery, Haslemere

Sadly the actual grave is so overgrown that the stone cannot be easily seen.  There is quite a crop blackberries.  

Maude Egerton King's grave, St Bartholomew's Cemetery,

Haslemere

Maude has a number of friends to keep her company in the cemetery:

Looking from Godfrey Blount's unmarked grave, to his
sister Mary Catherine Blount's grave and
beyond to Elizabeth Mary Hine and Gertrude Mary With's grave,
St Bartholomew's cemetery, Haslemere

• diagonally opposite her and next to Maude's brother William Egerton Hine and his wife Edith (at T14) is Phoebe MacDonald, the wife of Greville MacDonald (at T15).  Phoebe also died in 1927.  There is no marker on her grave.
• her sister Elizabeth Mary Hine is buried earlier in the cemetery at O10.  Elizabeth died in 1922 in Hambledon.  In probate she left "effects of £443 19s 11d of Green Bushes, Haslemere probate to Maude Egerton King".  Elizabeth shares the grave with her sister, Gertrude Mary With (nee Hine) who died in 1946 in Hampshire
• her brother-in-law Godfrey Blount is buried in an unmarked grave at sister Ethel Blount (nee Hine) is buried at M8, a few rows in front of Maude's sisters.  Here also lie the ashes of "Leslie 1958", I am not sure who that is?
• at N7, a plot directly opposite Elizabeth and Gertrude, lies Mary Catherine Blount (1853-1917?), Godfrey Blount's sister

Elizabeth Mary Hine and
Gertrude Mary With's
grave 



Mary Catherine Blount's grave

  

Arts and Crafts Movement in Surrey's Haslemere Study Day 15th July

I had a lovely Arts and Crafts day on Wednesday when the Arts and Crafts Movement in Surrey had a Haslemere Peasant Arts Study Day.

from The Arts & Crafts Movement in Surrey website 

from The Arts and Crafts Movement in Surrey website diary

We started off at St Christopher's Church, Haslemere's Arts and Crafts treasure chest, where Frankie Gaiter introduced us to the history and creation of St Christopher's.  Amongst many delights such as the woodwork of Charles Spooner, we saw the Arthur Romney Green altar chair and altar table.  We then walked over to Kings Road, Foundry Lane and Longdene Road to view the Peasant Arts buildings, which include the largest collection of Francis Troup houses in the country.  

Francis Frith postcard of St Christopher's Church c.1914

Back of St Christopher's Church postcard,
"How do you like this!  Splendid!! 1914"
sent to Longdene Road, Haslemere

We saw the former Woodworkers Hall (Arthur Romney Green's workshop and showroom) and Greenbushes Weaving House (Luther Hooper's weaving house) where the woodwork and silk and woollen hangings for St Christophers' Church had been made.  Sarah Tyssen from the Weaving House kindly let us walk around her pretty garden, complete with loom and weaving, and had laid out some old photographs and Peasant Art books.  

Some Haslemere Peasant Arts pieces from
The Haslemere Educational Museum's collection

After an incredibly large lunch offering at The Swan Inn we walked on to Haslemere Educational Museum where they had laid out some of their Haslemere Peasant Arts collection.  We had a short talk by the curator, Julia Tanner, who highlighted the museum's extensive European Peasant Arts collection.  To round off the day we had tea on the terrace of Kingwood, the former home of Joseph and Maude Egerton King, a beautiful Francis Troup designed country house.

It was a really enjoyable day and it was very nice to meet such a large collection of people who are all interested in the Arts and Crafts of our local area.  Thank you to The Arts and Crafts Movement in Surrey for including me in this special day.

Maude Egerton King - lost and found

I am back.  I did not intend to have such a big break in posting on my blog.  Today I found Maude Egerton King, she was lying at peace under the trees in St Barts cemetery.  Her headstone, a simple wooden banner, badly weathered with age but still beautiful.  She was propped up against her brother, William Egerton Hine.  Of Godfrey Blount, and Ethel (his wife and Maude's sister), I could find no sign but I will go back again to look some more.

Maude Egerton King's grave, St Barts cemetery, Haslemere

The lettering is very weather worn, but you can still just about read "Maude Egerton King 1867 - 1927".

Maude Egerton King's grave detail,
St Barts cemetery, Haslemere

The grave marker is very simple and unadorned.  It would be easy to overlook the decoration on the back.

The back of Maude Egerton King's grave banner,
St Barts cemetery, Haslemere

Design from the spine of The Vineyard (bound version)
April- September 1912

The heart, vine leaves and grape design is very familiar from The Vineyard journals.  I would expect that the wood carving was by Godfrey Blount himself, as something so special as his sister-in-law's grave would not be delegated to someone else.  The carving on the back is in much better condition than the front, probably a mixture of the angle of the banner, and the proximity to trees and shrubs behind.  As the two supports for the banner have rotted out of the ground, it is concerning to think that this piece of history is deteriorating before our eyes.  However I do not think that Maude would approve of the use of the likes of Ronseal to preserve her memory.

Maude Egerton King's grave,
St Barts cemetery

Thank you to Dunc for his ceaseless Ancestry research, and who located Maude for me at St Barts.

Not on Mr King's Secret Service

On 1st March 1916 Joseph King made a stand in Parliament against the secrecy of the war effort, and more generally that the Government "kept from the public things which might just as well be attained in a public way".  In doing so, King appears to set himself apart from his peers.  In retrospect there is some irony here, as King himself was successfully prosecuted under the Defence of the Realm Act later that year, in October 1916.  

Perhaps his treatment in that case was informed by his very public stance in respect of the Defence of the Realm below.  

from shorehamfort.co.uk

In response to a motion to provide a supplementary sum for the Secret Service of £50,000, the following debate took place (HC Deb 01 March 1916 vol 80 cc1139-48):

"Mr. KING 

I beg to move to reduce the Vote by £100.

 

Whenever the Secret Service Vote comes before the House I always take the opportunity of drawing attention to one or two peculiar circumstances connected with it. On former occasions, and in times of peace, I have always objected to the Vote because it is secret and because it attains, or attempts to attain, by methods kept from the public things which might just as well be attained in a public way. But at the present time the other view may be entertained, that as practically all our expenditure of a war nature is secret, all our Army expenditure, all our Navy expenditure, all our advances to our Allies and to our Colonies are kept entirely secret from us, what is the good of having a Secret Service Vote at all? All Votes for the War are entirely secret. As far as I can understand, they are not even to be put before the Public Accounts Committee. I, at any rate, have seen the Report of the Public Accounts Committee, as printed, and I do not understand that the expenditure of the War is set out there at all as we were given to understand it would be, or at any rate in such an intelligible form that we can understand what the expenditure on the War has been. Why have a Secret Service Vote at all when all the operations, to the extent of £5,000,000 a day, are carried on secretly? It is a mere absurdity. It is a contradiction in terms in these times to put forward a Secret Service Vote at all. I am sorry that no one connected with the Foreign Office is present. I think on previous occasions, as the Secret Service Vote is in some sort of way connected with the Foreign Office, we have had a representative of the Foreign Office to support and explain it. Whether that be so or not, I intend to call attention to two definite facts in connection with this Vote which I think are of some importance. If the Secret Service Vote is to be in any sense effective it ought to be kept secret, and at the present time there is a gentleman going up and down the country lecturing, and making a very large amount of money by his lectures, which he puts forward on the ground that he was employed for a good number of years by the Foreign Office on secret service.

William Le Queux, Goodreads.com

I refer, of course, to Mr. William Le Queux. If you go to any watering-place you will see advertisements of Mr. William Le Queux, stating that he will give to the public, in return for the purchase of a half-crown ticket, the benefit of his great experiences and the secrets of the Courts of Europe and of diplomacy which he has attained while he was in the Secret Service. If it is true that he was in the Secret Service, he ought not to be allowed to go about disclosing the secrets. If he was not in the Secret Service, he is a fraud, a deception, and a humbug, and he is also a discredit to the country and ought to be prosecuted under the Defence of the Realm Act for throwing discredit on the country and on the Foreign Office. I should like some explanation of what to my mind is a perfect scandal—the way in which Mr. W. Le Queux has been going about for months saying he was a friend of the late Marquess of Salisbury, that he had many intimate communications with him, that he was sent on a secret service mission with Secret Service money. And then he gets ex-Cabinet Ministers to take the chair for him at his lectures.

HON. MEMBERS 

Whom?

St John Brodrick, 1st Earl of Middleton,
Vanity Fair

Mr. KING 

The gentleman known as Viscount Midleton, who in this House was known as Mr. St. John Brodrick, who was formerly Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, takes the chair for him. I have no doubt, therefore, that Mr. St. John Brodrick, with all his authority at the Foreign Office, backs him up. If it was not that this gentleman professes under such auspices to give away the secrets of the Foreign Office the matter would be of less consequence. But with this backing up it becomes a perfect scandal.

There is one other, to my mind, important fact in connection with this Vote that ought to be met from the Treasury Bench—I refer to the case of Mr. Master-man. It has become an open secret, which anyone can see clearly by giving attention to the answers which have been given to frequent questions in this House as to the work, emoluments and method of pay of Mr. Masterman in his present position, that he is serving in the Secret Service and is paid out of the Secret Service Vote. I have always been a very great admirer of Mr. Masterman, but I do not agree with all his views, and I do not agree with a man being in the Secret Service and publishing elaborate statements of the policy of this country under his own signature. If he is in the Secret Service let him do secret work and not public work. I have it, everyone has it, on the very best authority, that he is in the Secret Service at present. Let him, therefore, do his work quietly and in secret. I am sorry I have not the
attention of any Cabinet Minister, because I am perhaps misguided enough to think that these matters I am bringing before the Committee are of such interest and importance that they ought to receive the attention of a Cabinet Minister, and I hope they will get some answer now.

The CHANCELLOR of the DUCHY of LANCASTER (Mr. Montagu) 

No.

Mr. KING 

They will not get any answer?

Mr. MONTAGU 

No.

Mr. KING 

Then I am very sorry.

Mr. MONTAGU 

I am now asking for money for the Secret Service. If my hon. Friend wishes to persuade us not to vote that money, he is perfectly entitled to do so. Secret Service money is money deliberately and repeatedly voted by Parliament about which hon. Members abrogate their right to ask any questions. If you do not like the Secret Service, do not vote it; but do not ask questions as to how it is spent, because then it is not Secret Service.

Mr. KING 

I am afraid I shall have to make my speech all over again. I have just been pointing out two definite cases of men who say they are in the Secret Service and are doing public work, and one of them is giving away, with the support of men who have been in the Foreign Office, what he declares to be the secrets of the Foreign Office. It is a perfect scandal, and it only bears out what I say, that if you vote money in secret you will have it misused and misapplied and you will put it into the hands of people who are quite unworthy of your confidence. I suppose as we are not to have any reply to my speech it is a case of either take it or leave it. I am afraid I shall be the only Member who will have the courage to speak out against this Vote, but I must, as a protest against the way in which my entirely well meant and serious allegations have been met, move a reduction of the Vote."

Joseph King's war themes

A cursory review of Hansard highlights Joseph King's interests in the war effort.  His speeches are commonly concerns with the well-being of soldiers, others and the cost of the war.  There are numerous speeches that King initiated or took part in that are titled "deserters", "conscientious objectors", "nerve shaken soldiers", "court marshall prisoners", "prisoners of war", "aliens" and "military service".

Hansard, from Parliament UK

For example in 1916:

10 January 1916: 

"MR KING asked the Under Secretary of War whether he will state the number of desertions from the Army at Home reported from 4^th August, 1914, to the latest available; and whether any men have during that period been imprisoned for desertion?

MR TENNANT I do not consider that it is in the public interest to give this information, but I will ask my hon. Friend not to run away with the idea that the number of desertions during the period in question causes concern." (Hansard, HC Deb 10 January 1916 vol 77 c1276)

and also that day:

"Mr. KING 

asked whether the number of divisions contributed by this country to the land forces of the Allies has reached or has exceeded the limit laid down by the Secretary of State for War on 25th August, 1914; what definite undertakings, if any, have been given by this country to maintain a definite number of fightiog men in the field; and what is the number of battalions which have to be in training or in reserve in order to make good losses or wastage in the field abroad?

Mr. TENNANT 

My hon. Friend must be aware that it cannot be in the public interest to give this information." (

HC Deb 10 January 1916 vol 77 c1279)

On 21st February 1916:

"Mr. KING asked the Prime Minister whether, with a view to bringing the financial and military demands on the country into harmony, the question has been considered of limiting the numbers of our military and naval forces; and, if so, whether any Cabinet decision has been reached?

The PRIME MINISTER 

The relation between the military and financial requirements of the War is engaging the constant attention of the Government, and, as I stated last week, has recently been the subject of special consideration." (

HC Deb 21 February 1916 vol 80 cc432-3)

"Mr. KING 

asked the Prime Minister whether his attention has been drawn to an answer given by the Under-Secretary of state for war on 20th January with regard to the execution of persons in this country by the military authority within some forty-eight hours of the dismissal of the appeal by the court of criminal appeal; whether such a period admits of an appeal to the clemency of the crown and the consideration by the crown of such an appeal; and whether he will endeavour to secure consistency of practice in this respect as between the war office and the home office?

The PRIME MINISTER 

In every case where an appeal to the clemency of the Crown has been made the execution has been postponed in order that the appeal may receive full consideration. Prisoners of this class are always assisted by experienced counsel and solicitors, who are free to give any advice they may consider necessary or desirable regarding the matter of appeals." (

HC Deb 21 February 1916 vol 80 c437W)